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Monday, April 4. 2005
GIMPshop for Windows
UPDATE (2005/10/15): New Version! I created a new version of GIMPshop for Windows since Scott released the source of GIMPshop 2.2.8. You can get it here.
These Photoshop users get some help now by Scott Moschella's GIMPshop (Announcing GIMPshop). Basically it is just a hack of the current GIMP-sourcecode changing the menustructure, naming and key-bindings to be more like Photoshop. Scott did this for Max OS X, but there are already packages for several linux flavours.
Since win32 ports don't really work, I took what I found in the comments of Scott's article and created an installer for Windows (tested on WinXP and Win2k) which should make the installation easy and should work for everyone. Also it is just 7.9MB small (thanks to LZMA compression). It is all you need. GTK is included and all unnecessary files have been removed. These are the gimp-gtk docs, the inlude files and all localization files. The latter don't make any sense, since Scott did the port in English only. Additionally I included the GIMP Deweirdifier Plugin which puts all GIMP windows in a single parent window to keep your Windows taskbar clean.
Get the installation binaries here:
GIMPshop_0.1beta_Setup.exe (includes GTK Wimp theme now)
Mirror 1 (thx to Suramya)
Mirror 2 (donated by James Lenhart)
Mirror 3 (thx to www.nisbetdesign.com)
You can find several links to the source in Scott's article
Find more info and tutorials on the official Gimp website, the gimp user group and in the Gimp resources at Deviant Art
Now have fun playing with your new toy and alot of thanks go out to Scott for this great hack!
Peace out
Matthias
UPDATE:
I just added the GTK Wimp theme to my installer to get the Windows Look'n'Feel. I didn't make it optional since I think Windows users wouldn't want the GTK look'n'feel anyway. You can still get the old installer without GTK Wimp here. Let me know what you think.
I changed the version number to .1 beta as several people told me Scott does. Also if there is any more interest in this package I'd appreciate any mirrors to make it permanent (since uploadtemple.com deletes files after 30 days).
UPDATE 2: I forgot to mention the credits for compiling go out to Hybr1s, thx Hybr1s! I also updated the download location to the mirror kindly donated by Suramya.
UPDATE 3 (2005-06-07): I want to clarify some things: I am not doing any development on GIMPshop. I merely did the packaging for Windows. I don't know when the next version will be there. Only Scott at plasticbugs.com knows. When it is there you can be sure to get the Windows port here and there will also be version for Win98/ME. Until then I kindly ask you to be patient.
This is perfect, the plasticbugs guy should make this the official Win Port. Works GREAT!
thx ;) After watching the traffic on my blog rise I wondered, why there where no comments. Now I figured the CVS version of my blog software was messy.. Just fixed that and be happy to receive your thanks :-)
I just made a new package btw which includes GTK Wimp, which allows Windows Look'n'Feel in Gimpshop for Windows.. I'll put it on the site in a minute g
I'm glad somebody finally did something about my shoddy packaging job
The inclusion of GTK-Wimp is a good idea, makes it look alot better than before. One thing I noticed is you have the version as 2.2.4. I think Scott said to consider it as .1 beta or something similar. Other than that Great Job.
Hehe. Were you the one who compiled it for win in the first place? Because I just repackaged it to run without all that copying (gimpshop over original gimp).
I didn't notice any versioning by Scott so I assumed the gimp version#.. I'll change it to .1 beta now. g
Nice job !!! Was hoping someone would package it with the GTK+ 2 runtime to avoid the installation odyssey.
A nice side-effect of you leaving out the localisation files is that the full beauty is now easily accesible for non-US systems without having to set the time zone.
Thumbs up !
That was my though. The locales files don't make any sense anyway since they were not changed to be like the localized versions of Photoshop. I for one would not even be able to use a Photoshop/Gimp in my native language since the translations are mostly artificial words which would be new to me.
Hi!
Thanks for your awesome work getting GIMPShop to us Windows users!
I've put up a website - http://www.gimpshop.net/ - it's all about GIMPShop and other open source projects.
I have been trying to put your feed up on my site through a service called Feeddigest.com and they are getting some errors from your RSS and ATOM feeds that you might want to know about. Here's what they sent me:
Our servers keep getting:
500 Can't connect to blog.yumdap.net:80 (connect: timeout)
I tried to diagnose it. I can ping blog.yumpdap.net from my home machine, but from the FeedDigest proxy server.. no pings. They both get the right IP. I did a traceroute and it seems 81.169.160.62 (some IP at your Web host, I imagine) is rejecting traffic from FeedDigest's IPs, but allows other stuff through. So.. this seems to be an issue at your ISP.
Our proxy server's IP is 67.15.191.5, if this helps you with further enquiries. I'd be worried that your ISP is rejecting traffic at all, as it may mean many people cannot view your site correctly.
dakira, Would you like me to mirror this file on my site? I'd be more than happy to (with a link back to you, of course).
Thanks for porting GIMPshop to Windows!
-Scott
great work this install was so much easier then the previous one i had been holding off sending the windows port to my friends cause it was kinda sloppy but now i've been sendin it out to everyone so thanx for all your hard work to scott, hybr1s, and dakira
wonder if someone will make a torrent for this i'd gladly seed it
Awesome job. This is one of the best ports of GIMPShop to Windows I have seen so far.
I have created a mirror for GIMPShop on my website at: http://mirror.suramya.com. (Direct Download link for Windows exe: http://mirror.suramya.com/redirect.php?id=5)
Feel free to post this on your site as a permanent mirror. :)
Let me know if you have any problems/questions.
- Suramya
Did anyone try it out on WinXP's restricted users and standard user log-ins? We're having some trouble that the hacked shortcuts revert to their old (original GIMP) shortcuts.
When used with Administrator rights... all runs well. Anyone would care to try and check it out?
I can tell you right away what the problem is. It is rather with Scott's hack. The ps shortcuts come with it but are not installed. The ps-menurc is there with GIMP anyway. It is normal you have to copy it from etc to $user.gimp-2.2.
What I did is save singleusersystems some work and create that directory on installation and copy the file there.
So if anyone knows where gimp stores it's standard-menurc values they could be changed so that the ps keybinding are the default..
Dakira,
It seems that you also have to copy the menurc file along with the ps-menurc file inside the $user/gimp 2.2 folder.
I'm still testing it for any side effects though.
in fact the menurc file is the only file to be copied. The ps-menurc is not looked at by gimp until renamed.. in my package ps-menurc and menurc in etc/gimp/2.2 are the same (since I first thought replacing the original would change the default.. which was wrong).
I have tried what you described and it stills comes back to the old GIMP if you dont have admin rights!
Could you please help? Could you describe the steps again? Is it working for you? THANKS
Sorry. I don't think I can help you because I don't know what exactly your problem is. Most people think GIMPshop is a 100% clone of photoshop. This IS NOT the case! If you don't install the GIMP Deweirdifier you still have all those GIMP Windows. The only thing changed is the menu structure. Create a new image. The image window has it's own menu. THIS is the menu that is supposed to look like Photoshop. Nothing else. The copy-instructions above are for the keyboard shortcuts only. The have nothing to do with the look.
I copied C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\etc\gimp\2.0\ps-menurc to C:\Documents and Settings\.gimp-2.2\ and renamed it just "menurc" - replaced the one that was already there. I am set up in single-user mode and it worked. Anyway, a couple things you may want to do is set the edit-clear to "delete" and select-none to "escape" - much easier to deal with.
nice work, was hoping for somehing to make my Gimp experience a little easier, as I am more or less a non techie and cant use linux very well, but I do happen to be a graphic designer looking for an alternative to photoshop. Unfortunately, old habits are hard to break and this helps make it a little easier for us.
sorry for the double post, just one thing to ask.
Whenever i click outside the docks, the dock windows disappear and must be recalled back manually. Any way to prevent that? i realise it is probably a gimp question, or perhaps of the deweirdifier, but still askin.
Great work, much appreciated.
I'm having a (small) problem, though, in that when I minimize The GIMP and then maximize it again I get a blank, greyed-out 'Open Image' dialogue window, which doesn't respond to attempts to close it. The only way to get rid of said window is to get a proper 'Open Image' window up (File/Open), which then takes the place of the intruder window, and becomes closable. This only seems to occur when I have an image open. Any suggestions?
From what I know the problem is with the GIMP Deweirdifier and it should disappear if you just remove the "backgroundwindow"-plugin from the plugins directory. The facy windows xp designs seem to be problematic, too.
This is good. I am forced to use a Windoze box at work. I have a Mac at home and need Photoshop-like abilities at work. This will allow me to do at least a little something on this crappy OS.
Any screenshots available ?
I am willing to download, but just wanted to see the screenshot(s) before downloading, since am on dial-up connection.
regards
There are alot of screenshots in the original article of Scott. So I'd advice you to go there for the screenshots (the link is somehwere in my article).
I've put up a mirror at http://www.nisbetdesign.com/gimpshop/GIMPshop0.1betaSetup.exe
Hey I dont know how or who to contact in this matter, but I would be more then willing to make a permanent mirror link for you guys. I have a server that virtually has unlimited bandwith. If you would like to talk to me more about it, Email me at sipherx-at-gmail-dot-com
Thanks. I made my email like that, so I dont get spammed.
By the way, I just now thought about it, I didnt make it clear that I am donating this mirror so I am not charging for this mirror, its got a very fast connection running to it, and it is very stable and steady. The reason why I wanted someone to email me is, is because I can setup a custom domain for example http://mydomain.com/whatever you want/ or whateveryouwant.mydomain.com So give me an email.
Another mirror here...
http://ri0t.info/bandwidth/GIMPshop0.1betaSetup.exe
This looks really awesome... I'm not going to throw away Photoshop just yet, though ;) I wonder if Adobe will try n' stop this project somehow being as it could start cutting into Photoshop sales if it gets really popular.
New mirror in Hungary 8).
www.kronart.hu/archiv/gimpshop0.1betasetup.exe
Sadly i can't even start this program in Win98. Was very excited with your windows version, so that was a big disappointment! :-( Below is the error message i get on opening - it is my hope there will be a fix sometime in the future?
GIMPSHOP caused an invalid page fault in
module LIBGTK-WIN32-2.0-0.DLL at 015f:00d3d69e.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=015f EIP=00d3d69e EFLGS=00010206
EBX=015002e0 SS=0167 ESP=0134f730 EBP=0134f758
ECX=00000000 DS=0167 ESI=01500330 FS=2b3f
EDX=00000008 ES=0167 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
83 38 00 74 0a 47 8b 4d ec 83 3c b9 00 75 f6 8d
Stack dump:
00ede2e5 014feed0 0134ff68 7800db11 780332a0 00000000 015002f0 009580e8 01500330 014feed0 0134f7b8 0094b6f3 015002e0 01500200 00000000 00000044
The question is: does the original gimp run in win98? What you could try is the following: Don't install the gimp deweirdifier (single window option in installer). Then you might try to remove the GTK Wimp files (because this might be winxp only). In the next installer I will make the latter optional if this really causes it not to work in 98. I have no gimpshop on the machine i'm on atm, so I ca't tell you where to locate the GTK wimp files. I'll get to it when I'm back home on Sunday.
FYI - i have since upgraded and installed GIMPshop in Win2000 and WinXP. Both worked wonderfully. This is just awesome - thank you and keep up the incredible work!!
I can't get it to run on win98 either. I installed it on my winxp machine last night and it runs like a charm. Awesome port guys. Thanks for the hard work :)
I have WIn98 second edition and I cannot get Gimp to load and have the same problem.
What is teh answer PLEASE>>>>>>>>>>>
Regards
Tony
Luc seems to be a simular prob here I am trying to find the answer but I think it is down to these intelligent guys to show us the patch we need to solve this problem as you can see the details of the problem are:
GIMPSHOP caused an invalid page fault in
module LIBGTK-WIN32-2.0-0.DLL at 017f:00d3d69e.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00d3d69e EFLGS=00010206
EBX=014e2a80 SS=0187 ESP=0134f730 EBP=0134f758
ECX=00000000 DS=0187 ESI=014e2b30 FS=13c7
EDX=00000008 ES=0187 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
83 38 00 74 0a 47 8b 4d ec 83 3c b9 00 75 f6 8d
Stack dump:
00ede2e5 014d9570 0134ff68 7800db11 780332a0 00000000 014e2a90 009580e8 014e2b30 014d9570 0134f7b8 0094b6f3 014e2a80 014e27d0 00000000 00000044
So how about it Gimp have you a patch?
Tony
Update: I used whiskey's comments on the gimpshop creator's site to try and make it work. We have to first install gtk2+, then gimp, then finally install gimpshop. Then we have to copy all of gimpshop folder's files into the gimp folder, thereby replacing the original gimp folder's stuff.
Now I tried this, and the errors stopped, but the interface is just REGULAR gimp!!! Not photshopized!!!!
Some people have reported that it has been working, but some screenshots would be nice. I don't understand what on earth to do to make gimpshop run to look like photoshop. Even following the instructions on the other site, still I'm getting the standard GIMP menus!
I installed gimpshop with the background window option. There are a few issues I noticed with that... the first being that the child windows it opens aren't actually opened inside the background window, they're opened on top of it, which negates the purpose of having a background window. The background window can't be closed either. Exiting gimpshop leaves it open, and the exit option in the file menu for the window doesn't work. I have to kill it each time from the task manager.
It would also be nice if the options from the main child window (like open, save, etc) were available in the main window.
the bg-window only works if it knows the name of the gimp .executable (can be set in options->setup). I solved this by adding a registry key on installation-time. This might not work if you don't install as admin.
I just dont get why the mac and linux versions of gimpshop are fine, and yet the windows version is so riddled with bugs and problems. Conspiracy theories.....
The Mac and Linux version have the advantage that both systems have GTK installed. Both systems have a good windowmanager. A "clean" windows version works fine, too but looks bad. That's why I included the GIMP deweirdifier and the GTK Wimp theme.. Either of those might pose a problem in old windows versions. WinXP and Win2k users don't seem to have any problems.
I'm no pro in writing installer scripts, so I didn't know, yet how to seperate the GTK Wimp theme and the rest of GIMP. For the next release I'll have figured out how to do it and win98 users should have no problem. For the time being I'd try to compile it yourself for Win98 (see http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/)..
I am windows XP, and it just looks like plain old gimp :(
The first time I tried it I got the old Gimp windows, but it worked the second time
For whatever reason it works fine as administrator, but it won't let me set the window exe when I'm running as a user. (Gimpshop was installed as administrator)
you can try this: The options of the backgroundwindow are stored in the registry (hkeylocalmachine i think). Try to export them and modify the .reg file from hklm to hkcu and import it as the user you want to use it with. this might work but i'm not too sure about it ;) The GIMP Deweirdifier is VERY buggy and I'd rather recommend NOT installing it.
GOOD WORK! This is great :)
I still like the Gimp. It's a great piece of work!
But IMHO GimpShop is just more 'usable'...
Does anyone know how to switch GTK Themes on Windows?
Could someone give me instructions as to what EXACTLY to do/install in order to make this work with photoshop like menus on it?
I'm starting with nothing gimp related insatlled :D Except I think I still have gtk from yesterday when I tried to make it work. Nevermind, just assume I have nothing gimp related installed, nothing linux related installed, and I'm on winXP. I'll reinstall gtk on top of the current files (if they are there still).
Thanks in advance for any help, I'd be grateful :D
Here is what I do on a clean XP: I double-click the installer, install everything and it works. Just as that. You have to be an admin user, though.
Yargh thats what I did and it said "libglib.2.0.0_.dll is missing"
I uninstalled gtk2 and then instlaled from the links on this page, and still it comes up as old gimp. Oh well, it was not meant to be I think :(
It's nice but there's 3 Sharpens and that might be confusing to newbies. The one under Enhance is the one everyone is used to and thinks of. If the other two Sharpens have anything to do with that one, couldn't they be put as sub-menu items under it?
If you had read my post you'd know I have nothing to do with gimpshop except packaging it for windows. Please go to Scotts blog and post your recommendations there or contact him directly. Your suggestion sound pretty good.
I seem to have a language problem with this install, I get polish menus and tips
I have winxp with polish language support because polish language doesn't display properly without it, but it doesnt mesn i want polish language apps on my pc. life is hard enough ;)
I cant find a language option anywhere
hard looking through polish menus anyway
any idea's how to install with an english interface
that is VERY strange since I removed ALL localizations. Anyway.. you can fix this by setting up a environment variable LANGUAGE and set it to 'en'.
how would I do that?
never played with environment variables
sorry to sound a bit thick, a little more information is needed.
Right-click on "My Computer" and go to Properties -> Advanced -> Ennvironment Variables.
Seems to work great if I open the app directly :-)
However, if I double click on an image (already associated with gimpshop), then I get an error stating "libglib.2.0.0_.dll is missing" during program startup. This is followed by other "missing errors" and the program fails to load properly.
Can't complain though. Overall a great product, and free too! Good work.
P.S. I'm a WinXP user on an Athlon XP 1900+, 512Mb Ram.
Are you using GIMPshop under a different user -rights? It seems GIMPshop is needs Admin access.
try copying the ps-menurc file inside your profiles gimp 2.2 folder.
Congratulations to Scott for this great job. But I'm still having the problem that I have to change the system-language for using gimpshop. Because I'm using gimp in school with my pupils in Austria, this is a sad fact when you want to use Gimpshop in a network with limited rights on each workstation. If anybody has a solution for this problem, please help me. If you need somebody for translating the menues, I would do that.
I removed all the lanuage files so it should be English all the time. If you want it in German, have a look at the original GIMP and look out for locales directories. This is where the language files are. Just copy the German locales directory to the same location in the GIMPshop tree. All your pupils will have a German GIMPshop then. But it will be with the original GIMP German translation and not with the namings the German Photoshop uses. If your pupils are not too young I'd let them use the English version. When I was a kid (10 years old) there was no German software and I had to cope with what I get. This way I picked up alot of English before even having classes in school. ;)
Can't get scanner working in GIMPshop, crashes with error in twain.exe + kernel32.dll :(
mhh.. I have no scanner to test this. But there definately are still alot of problems with gimpshop. I'll ask friends to test this, but until now I think one should consider the .1 beta as a technical preview ;)
Hi, I just installed Gimpshop onto my XP SP2 machine and I get this odd error popup when I start and when I try to save using the program. I hit continue a couple of times and it seems to open and work fine. Error message: "There is no disk in drive. Please insert a disk into drive\Device\Harddisk6\DR10"
I can hit cancel and it does the same thing, pops up a couple of times then it starts normally. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ok, I found the problem with my error messages. This is actually a known bug with GIMP and not the XP port. It was caused by a card reader with empty bays on it. If you run into this no disk error, try removing any card readers from your system. (ie. flash drive readers, 6 in 1 media drives etc)
I have built-in flash card slots in my PC. So it appears that I have to open the case and unplug the USB cable that goes to these slots in order to use GIMPshop. Not very friendly. Anyone know when this will be fixed?
Hi Tim,
GIMPshop is very outdated and not updated anymore. What you describe is a bug in the underlying GIMP version that has long been fixed in the regular GIMP for Windows. If you search the help files or FAQ on the gimp site, you'll find a solution.
But I would rather advise you to get the regular GIMP since it has moved on quite a bit. There are a lot of new features and other improvements (e.g. to the interface). Go get it at gimp.org!
Just ran into the same issue, and found a solution at the following webpage:
http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips506.html
In a nutshell, I had a device labeled as drive I:
I changed it to M:
Issue resolved.
What a great idea, but may be there is a much simpler solution to do this.
I really appreciate Scott's idea, but after i read through the bunch of problems on this page I begun to compare the GIMPShop with the original GIMP.
What I have found:
The Menu structure:
The menu structure builded from XML files. Scott made a great work and changed them to reflect the structure of Photoshop.
If You copy these files from the GIMPShop installation under the original GIMP installation folder then you have the new, PhotoShop like menu structure, BUT with original GIMP'ish menu texts.
I have tested this with the new 2.2.6 version also.
The files located under GIMP\share\gimp\2.0\menus\
The Shortcuts:
The PhotoShop shortcut file part of the original GIMP distribution.
You can found the file under GIMP\etc\gimp\2.0\ named ps-menurc.
The top of this file:
; This file installs keyboard shortcuts from Photoshop 6 in GIMP 2.2.
;
; Rename it to 'menurc' and place it into your personal GIMP directory:
; ~/.gimp-2.2 folder (Linux) or C:\Documents and Settings\.gimp-2.2
; folder (Windows).
;
; There is a web-page describing these keybindings at
; http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimpps.php
The Menu texts:
Scott modified 87 source files which contains the menu texts to make the wonder.
There is a big backdraw of this method: you have to compare and modify these source files with every new release of GIMP.
This can cause a big leap after the release of a new version.
BUT there is a much simplier solution.
You can localize the GIMP by setting the LANG System variable under Windows enviroment (check the help for other systems).
Then the GIMP going to use the \GIMP\lib\locale\ files to display the menu and all other texts.
These files also have to be compiled from the source, but I think to much simplier to maintain 5 files which holds these texts what are created for this purpose than maintain the real source at every new release.
You can found these files in the source distribution under the po folders (po, po-libgimp, po-script-fu, po-plug-ins).
And here is my idea: we can make a new language - for example ENPS (based on the ENGB version) - and we can make all necessary changes in these files.
Then we have just 5 files to compile and distribute instead of the whole application.
After that we have to do just one simple step to get the GIMPShop: set the LANG to ENPS.
Unfortunatly I don't know C, so I can't do this on my own, but if Dakira or Hybr1s can accept my solution then they able to compile these 5 files.
So I hope my idea is good and this way the builing of the GIMPShop can be much faster and simplier.
Any comments ?
Yep! I got a comment. Scott called his modifications a hack for reason. They are a quick and dirty solution.
Sven - a GIMP dev - was really mad about this and (in a not so nice tone) commented on slashdot. But he DID say changing the xml files is okay for him. But not changing the default (english) strings in the code. This is what the locals are for. Scott knows about this already. I'm sure if he has some more time (or any ambitions at all) he'll make the language files.
One thing remains: Is there any way to start GIMP in a language other than the default system language? I could only do it by setting an environment variable which is no problem in linux but not so handy in windows.
I'm happy to read your answer.
About your worry on the language:
For example I use english version of windows for almost 10 years, but I live in Hungary and I use the hungarian keyboard layout.
I have never missed any national related functions in these years.
Before I tried to start the GIMP in a different language my machine did't have the LANG system variable.
So it's not necessary and don't affects other programs - until now.
On other hand I aggree with you: this is not a good way to select a programs language, it should be part of the settings.
I found the forum You mentioned and I partially agree with Sven. He is hardly right about the docs, book and tutorials, but if is just an option for the people who KNOW PhotoShop then I hope he can accept this.
For people who allways would like to use the latest version of GIMP I suggest to convert the menu structure and use the PS shortcuts, which are a big step with on a nice way.
I going to do this at least.
Free Hosting:
If you make this "open source" you can upload it for free to sourceforge.net.
That provides you a homepage for it, file repository, CVS repository for uploading and making changes to the installation package, and a lot more.
There are a lot of really useful projects already there at sourceforge.net
The thing is: this is not my project. Scott from plasticbugs.com did this hack. Someone (stupid) already created a freshmeat project (with the whole source). The GIMP devs already consider GIMPshop a fork, which it is not - and shouldn't be. I just wrote an email to Scott asking him what he's up to right now.
My advice would be:
- take the clean gimp source
- put all his string modifications into language files
Those - together with the (great) xml menu structure Scott created, could make up a sourceforge project.
btw: I'm well aware of sf.net. I used to work on several projects there ;)
Cool. I was wondering if you already knew about it. I think it is still probably the best solution for free hosting of files this large.
Good luck. Hopefully Scott will be able to help get this organized. Perhaps it shouldn't be a legit fork of the Gimp, but definately a user mod I would love to see developed for future versions of The Gimp.
I like the Gimp, but it would be nice to reorganize the layout into a more familiar style like PhotoShop. (And photoshop can't complain about someone using a similiar layout, because paintshop uses the same layout too.)
GIMPshop .1 beta crashes on startup if it is installed on Windows 98/ME. This is a known problem of GTK+ 2.6 ( http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/faq.html ) that is used by GIMPshop. But with a clever trick you can replace GTK+ 2.6 by GTK+ 2.4.14: Install GTK+ 2.4.14 to a directory and then copy the subfolders "bin", "etc", "lib" and "share" from that directory to the installation folder of GIMPshop. This overwrites the GTK+ 2.6 files by the GTK+ 2.4.14 files. After that GIMPshop should work on Windows 98/ME.
Nice! Thanks alot Martin. As soon as I find the time I'm going to make a seperate installer for 98/ME. Got other things on me mind now, though (working on a state-of-the-art shape-preserving image interpolation algorithm based on an article in the current IEEE journal) :-)
Thanks for the gobldeegook Martin on making Gimpshop work for Win 98. I tried figuring out your way of making it work but not being tech minded on these matters I am completely lost.
Is there a simple way of explaining you method?
Many thanks
Tony
Martin it does state on the page
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/faq.html
that I uninstall the v2.6, but how I read your info is that I keep this version and also load v2.4 and alter the subfolders on V2.6. God am I thick, must be the 13 tablets I take each day screwing up my brain cells!!
Well would you believe it I have done it, but! But, it states that the version is 2.4 not 2.6, is this correct? Also do I delete or unistall the version 2.4??
Tony
you don't need 2.6 anymore since it didn't work anyway.
I will post an installer for GIMPshop .1 beta for 98/ME tonight. But I need someone to test it since I don't have 98 anymore..
I would love to try it out but I am not here for the next few weeks, might be able to log on on Monday though.
Tony
I've got 98se if you want me to give it a shot. As a little thank you for all the work you guys do over there.
Great. I'll be waiting for Scotts new version, though. See http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=249.
I'll contact you as when it's out and I have compiled and packaged it.
Hey guys check out this website. https://www.archei.com/wingimp/ this is the kinda shit that pisses me off. Opensource software being sold. We need to email these people as much as possible and tell them to stop. Also notify the original creators of gimp and tell them what is going on. This kinda stuff really pisses me off.
I cannot get GIMPshop to work. It runs but it just has the old window interface inside the background wrapper. I have tried copying menurc - ps-menurc etc. If anyone can help me it would be appreciated.
I don't know if you still need mirror's?
http://www.mrbim.com/component/option,comdocman/task,docdownload/gid,3/Itemid,27/
Here is one... If it's not okay, I'll remove it or edit it.
I really like the GIMPshop hack!!
MrBim
I can't get it working,
installing is fine but I get this error message when opening it:
The configured filename encoding cannot be converted to UTF-8: Conversion from character set 'iso1' to 'UTF-8' is not supported
Please check the value of the environment variable GFILENAME_ENCODING.
I'm running under win 2000
Just wanted to say thanks for your work - I appreciate it a lot. It's like that neat little tool you saw at the DIY-shop: you didn't even know it existed but now that you've got it, you couldn't be without it any more. :)
Would it be possible to get GIMP Deweirdifier Plugin separately? I'd love to get all windows in one.
yeah.. just search for it in google and you get directly to the plugin download site and install instructions..
Hi Dakira, Hi all
On windows 2003 works perfect :) Great job !
but :)
are You going to make it looks like the Scott`s screenshots gimp ?
hi.. this is exactly Scotts work. Hybr1s compiled it for windows and I packaged it. Scott is working on a new version right now. When he releases it I'll post a new Windows package...
Different, like how? The thing that was changed were the menu's on the (open) images. These look exactly like Photoshop to me.
In my case Gimpshop leads to a crash of Gimp. After uninstalling everything (including GTK) and reinstalling the original version of gimp, it is NOT possible any more to open any graphic files.
Gimp works propperly but "knows" only one file format: xcf. No opening or saving of jpg/tif/bmp/... -> ERROR, unknown file format.
Can you help me?
Thanks a lot, DG
Hi, I appreciate the work done here, I wish to gibe info about some problems. 1- Sharpen menu's submenus are wrong and doesnot contain sharpen. Instead sharpen is still located in enhance header.
2- Open file menu freezes (it opens the file but remains as a rudimentary window in the background and cant be shut) also the same thing occured for levels window (it washed out grey and stood still until I close program) regards. (winxp sp2 home ed)
Please read the above article. It clearly states that GIMPshop was created by Scott Moschella (plasticbugs.com). I merely packaged it for Windows. So any windows-installer specific problems should be posted here. Everything else on Scotts page. I cannot give real support for this and I think neither can Scott. If you have problems please wait for the next version which Scott is preparing right now. This will remove alot of problems.
Thanks. But...the one thing I hoped it would do...it doesn't. That is that the dialogues stay on top and don't disappear every time you do anything to the image. Having to find the dialogue which has hidden itself under the work makes Gimp or Gimpshop a pain in the seat warmer to use. Or is there a way to keep dialogues on top?
I mirroed the versions for linux, windows, and mac os x at http://gimpshop.de
Pretty good, though I hate The dewierdifier or whatever that makes it one window and the Wimp thing. Also, my iconv.dll was corrupt, but i copied one from a bittorrent installation, and it worked fine.
If you make a version with no wimp or dewierdifier, I'll host it, jsut mail it to n3ldan [at] gmail [dot] com
Excelente iniciativa, felicitaciones!! ;-)
sigue asi con este proyecto.
Congratulations
is there any way i can get just the plugin? i already have the GIMP.
Nope.. if you read the post (and the original article) you will see that the menustructure has been changed. the menu .xml files are compiled to build the user interface.
I'd advise you to wait for the next version of gimpshop anyway. It will definitely be a "cleaner" hack.
Go and check plasticbugs.com or my place regularly to stay updated.
Not able to install gimp-help with gimpshop says gimp is not installed. Seems to need a registry entry for it to realize gimp is installed. So how can I edit the registry to install the help?
"I'd advise you to wait for the next version of gimpshop anyway. It will definitely be a "cleaner" hack."
Glad to hear theres ongoing development .. is a brilliant port .. just a little buggy for me right now.
Well, to (once again) clarify things:real "developement" is done by the GIMP developers team. Scott of plasticbugs.com is doing modifications. And I merely did the packaging for windows. ;)
PLease help.I installed GimpShop but it does not look like Photoshop.It still looks like GIMP.How and what do I do to make it look like Photoshop.Help :-(
Thanks
Geo, you must open new document, then you will se a new window, this window look like photoshop :)
ps. Great app. but, when be next version ?
Maybe You should add the function from photoshop -"Stroke ?
Correct the Slices", they have some bugs
Please read the above comment by me. Or even better: read the article. You will see I do not do ANY GIMPshop development. So this is the wrong place to ask. You might want to check ask Scott at plasticbugs.
I tested your installer on Win98 and it doesn't work; I supposed it was the infamous GTK+ bug (on Win 98/ME platforms) so I overwrote the DLLs with the newest version, and voila!
I think it'd be great if you updated the installer with the newest GTK+ 2.6.7, or even better: make GIMPshop depend on the installed runtimes, and have people download them from gimp-win.sf.net (just like regular GIMP does)
BTW, is there any way you could turn X-Mouse ("activation follows mouse") on, on install?
Hi. I was aware of the Win98 problem. Anyway, I won't release anything until there is a new GIMPshop which is still in development by Scott (plasticbugs.com). When it's there I'll be open for suggestions.
This is an awesome package!!!
Finally I can replace Paint as the default paint app. without remorse.
Thanks,
Ben
I would like to know if Gimp (as I have not yet seen anything yet) will be challenging Corel/Adobe Illustrator and having a graphics software to their list. Otherwise since installing XP Gimp performs wonderfully. Thanks GUYS.
Tony
Hm, i just updated manually the deweirdifier-plugin to version 3.0alpha - now gimpshop is even better. ever thought about putting it into your win-installer?
greets
ps: there's no "official" page for gimpshop, isn't there? ever thought about starting one? (possibly, 2gether with scott from plastic bugs)
Hi,
in fact there IS an official site. If you read the article you will see it is www.plasticbugs.com!
I wanted to wait for the next long-promised release from Scott (of plasticbugs) before I do a new Windows package of GIMPshop. But this guy must be getting lots of email about this so he doesn't reply. If I find the time I will update the installer to a new Deweirdifier and GTK version (the latter also working with Win98) but atm I have to prepare for robocup2005.org. Wish me luck in Japan, I will write a daily report in this blog :-)
dakira
well, plasticbugs.com is scotts blog, not so much gimpshop-related posts though... (in one of the rare ones, he speculated about a dedicated gimpshop-page. but i guess he has other priorities than gimpshop right now)
anyway: good luck in japan and thx for the fast reply (btw: i got two mail-notifications about your post)
hi kreegee. You got one notification about my reply to you and one about the Update I did to the article a minute or so later. At least that's my guess. Otherwise this behavior would be really strange ;). BTW: Your reply was lightning-fast, too g
Wow, Great Job!! My hat's off to you and Scott. GIMPshop is Great. I originally had just plain Gimp 2.2 on my XP Pro. I installed GIMPshop and found everything works fine "as advertised". The only snag was the help (F1)gave me an error message because it didn't exist. I just copied the help dir from the Gimp location(C:\Program Files\Gimp-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\help)over to the GIMPshop location (C:\Program Files\GIMPshop\share\gimp\2.0\help)I just snagged the two folders "en" and "images". I now have help in GIMPshop! Thanks, for a great job - I look forward to the next release! :-)
Hi barni,
a fix is on it's way. But I am on business in japan right now and don't have any spare time.
About the source: if you read the article you know this is not my modifiaction and I linked to the original creator (and source) in the article. So everything is fine with the GPL.
Ver. 0.1 won't work on my desktop Sony Vaio (PCV-RS221, 512MB RAM, 120GB HD, 17" Sony LCD monitor, WinXP Home SP2). Have you made any progress in upgrading this?
Gimpshop never works for me, it just looks like regular gimp. Please help!
win XP pro I unihnstalled regular gimp too.
tem alguma menira de fazer ele ficar mais parecido com o photoshop?
Sadly I can't get gempshop to work. Granted thats probably because I'm running windows 98 however I still would like to be able to have a free alternitive to photoshop that's legal to download.. I'd upgrade if i could if thats what it'll take but right now I'm broke and if i had the money to upgrade wouldn't I be getting photoshop in the first place?
Hi Andrew,
there will be a new version soon. You can get the old version working by getting a current GTK for windows and just copying it over the files in the GIMPShop install dir.
Do we have any idea when GIMPshop will be available for Windows 98? Thanks! Kristy
Hi Kristy,
Scott is working on the next version and as soon as it is there I will make a new package which will work in both, Win 98 and XP. In the meantime you can get the current GTK for Windows and copy all the files over the GIMPshop available here. That will make it work in 98.
Cheers
Matthias
I have XP and the latest Gimp, the problem is that the background of gimp won't close down. The only way to get rid of it is to close down and re-start my computer. How can I fix this please (in laymans terms please)?
And, is there an ingenious out there that can produce a filter that will enable a picture or object to twist (not spiral or warp). Have tried using the warps and other filters but can't get the right idea translated to my picture.
Tony
I don't see all these menu changes in GIMPhop - it looks like regular GIMP in a window.
Gimpshop is nice idea but that newest version UPDATE (2005/10/15): New Version! 2.2.8.
was reeeeeally buggy, so maybe we'll wait for a stable one. Keep it kicking!
hey,
I'm working on a new version compiled with a different build environment right now. Problem is: Even Tor Lillequist (create of GTK+ for Win) said that everything GTK-related will very much likely crash in Windows. I'll try anyway ;)
Hi Dakira,
Let me know when you publish your new build!
Have you considered adding more plugins?
And do you know what's up with the help system? It gives an error message, and even downloading the one from gimp.org doesn't mesh right.
Thanks again for you work!
-Chad
I admire the work you put into Gimp, many thanks.
I love working with it, although have to say still have to close down to get rid of the back screen.
Kind regards
Tony
Gimpshop sucks! it makes my work slower and complicated... and full bugs!
can u fix it... much better if u add a polygonal lasso tool!
Gimpshop don't work on windows 95 :( ...or i doing something wrong..
n/a? I see you made a comment and couldn't put your name to it. It seems that Gimp is to intelligent for you. Serif have a simple photo software that realy is for beginners, I suggest you down load that, or Photofilter thats free as well.
Tony
uhm, the ps shortcut not working in my gimpshop but the other menus working just fine, im on XP pro
This is great and works perfectly. bugs can be fixed anytime.
I love the idea of the Gimp shop....but i already have gimp 2.3.9 , can i install the Gimpshop and not loose my gimp 2.3.9 or do i have to delete mine to get the shop.?
Good project , etc.
HOWEVER - I think the gimp should be left the way it is.
If those stuck up photoshop users are so smart surely they can use their big brains to figure out the gimp.
lol.. yeah.. probably right. But there is still the issue that the GIMP devs don't listen to their actual users at all .
I'm having frequent crash issues running GIMPshop on Windows Vista (the official-release Business edition, not the beta). It hung on the fonts database during the initial load, though it seems to have gotten past that. But now, when I try to create a new image, it crashes out almost instantly every time.
Just wanted to let you know...
I'm having the same problem on Vista. It crashes every time I try to create a new image.
Hi. I have 2 comments for you:
1. do not use Windows Vista. there is no reason to upgrade (yet) but a million reasons against it (software compatibility issues, drm, tpm,...) the only reason to upgrade is when you need to play DirectX10 games. Companies should stay with 2000 or XP, as well as home users. Also there is no improved security because Vista hasn't proven itself to be secure, yet. XP in contrast has been "hardened" for 5 years now.
2. I'm working on a new GIMPshop for Windows release which will probably fix your problems and when I release it I'd be happy to hear back from you ;-)
Sweet a new Gimpshop version for windows, when do you plan on releasing it?
As soon as I get that damn thing compiled ;) I'm trying to get help from the GIMP for Windows guy right now, but I assume he doesn't like GIMPshop ;) I'm close anyway.. just a few more compile errors to resolve.
Well good luck getting it done, Im very excited.
I'm running Windows Vista Business, and GIMP works great. (Sure it hangs during loading the fonts, but it always gets over that.) The only "problem" I have is the drop down menu highlighting. When I move the mouse over a menu item, the text label changes to white (white text on white background). Any ideas?
To fix the White on White text background problem when running GIMPShop om Windows Vista:
RightClick the icon that you use to launch GIMPShop, select Properties.
Click the Compatibility tab.
Check the Checkbox that says Disable Visual Themes
Not good at the moment. Haven't had any time in the past weeks to work around the problems. I wrote an email to the Win-GIMP guy to ask him how he's compiling the new GIMP versions. Either it got stuck in his spam filter or he just doesn't feel like replying. I'm currently writing some exams so I won't be trying to make the new GIMPshop in the next couple of weeks. I'm free again at the end of April, though.. so lets see what happens then ;-)
i rather have photoshop!!! iam not used to the gimp.. ive being trying to learn the gimp for 2 weeks now! PHOTOSHOP
I note that the Windows Version of Gimpshop is lagging behind the Mac. Are you planning to update the Windows version?
Yep.. I am planning to do that. But failed the last couple of times setting up a working build environment to get a current GIMP compiled in Windows. I tried to get help but the WinGIMP guy is not responding.. I don't have too much time to spend on GIMPshop for Win, unfortunately.
Can someone please post an actual link to the "help files" download? My help files do not work and I am complete newbie to Gimpshop. I don't know photoshop either. I am gonna learn from scratch, hopefully.
Thanks
hi glenn,
just use gimps online-help. it is available in multiple languages.
hello dakira I've seen that you will make a new windows version of gimpshop! thanks a lot
have you any news for us?
I'm still having the same problem described above - lags on Fonts (original GIMP did that, too, though...and crashes every time I try to open a new image, which original GIMP did not do). But I love the GIMPshop interface!^^ I've been working around it by copying work and Pasting As New. Lets me open another window. But it's annoying and still limited. Hope there's an update soon, or someone posts a better workaround.
Yah, the concept is great (Thanks you GimpShop staff!!) but I've found a coupla problems with 2.2.8 that don't quite fit.
1st...is there a way to get the brush sizes any larger than 19pt? I could spend an hour painting or erasing parts of a pic with big k's
2nd...the layer function seems to flatten even when I haven't told it to. I'll go to get another pic to blend and can't access the previous layer.
3rd Why 2 "file" tabs on the header? One on the tools bar and one on whatever pic I've opened That, along with some commands that seem more akin to HTML code than PhotoShop...It's pretty confusing.
CB
I am wanting to scan multiple documents with Gimp and after every scan I am having to go through the entire process... File/acquire/scan etc. Is there a way to set gimp to do multiple scans prior to editing?
Thanks
speaking of errors, have had a hard time with my WIN install of G.S.
keep getting a
Window-no disk
exception C0000013 error.
As soon as I end gimp via exit, or even taskmgr. if goes away.
Have tried several things mentioned on the web to no avail.
Any help is sure appreciated, I was SO excited when I found G.S.
Can't wait to bury Photoshop for good, the hawg! :)
I can't get helpfiles in gimpshop to work. I've uninstalled and reinstalled, but it's no good. Help?
Also did someone say that Photoshop plugins now work with Gimpshop?
I'm sorry, but GIMPshop hasn't been in development for a while. You only get helpfiles if you install the original helpfiles from GIMP (available on the GIMP homepage).
My advice is, go make yourself comfortable with the original GIMP.. GIMPshop is stuck with a very old version of the original GIMP and I'm not going to waste my time compiling a new version for Windows of old messy software.
Alot of effort is put in making GIMP more usable and it really isn't that bad.
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